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PostSubject: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Sat Jun 17 2017, 01:34

This is a real oddball for me (which is something coming from me Wink ). I found this kit on Ebay and the pics were not all that good. I tried doing some online research on the kit and found very little about it. But the price was good and the subject matter, early pre-Dreadnought battleship, really appealed to me. So I took a chance and bought it. Now I have to figure out if it is really a glorified toy or a decent model (or both?). scratch

The Kit

This is supposed to be a 1/250 scale "British Empire 1880 early Iron Warship" by Kits Remembered. It is kit # KRM30002. It is a model of a transitional warship known as a "torpedo-ram" which was an iron-clad battleship powered by steam and / or sails. And, as the name implies, the ships did fire early steam-powered torpedoes out of single tubes in the ship's bow and stern.

Pic of the box (the label looks like it was printed from a home computer and printer):





The model has a surprising number of pieces for such a "simple" model:



Examining the parts you can see there is very little in the way of any detail. Most parts are fairly rudimentary. But the funny thing is that for a kit of this type (short-run, unknown manufacturer) the parts were, for the most part, pretty clean and well molded. The kit is motorized. By far the worst part of the kit is the instruction sheet. And sheet it is as it is a single sheet of paper printer front and back. Image quality is VERY poor so you have to do a lot of double-checking of parts and part locations while building. Paint call-outs are very generic too and not very useful for the period this ship would have served in the Royal Navy.

The Build

I did some research and found that I wanted to paint this ship in the Victorian period colors of the Royal Navy. That would be a red lower hull and black upper. Deck structures are in white while masts and smoke stack are in an umber color.

Pic of the hull with the motor installed:



This is a build in progress so I'll have more to come.



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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Sat Jun 17 2017, 05:14

Cool! Motorized like the old Lindberg kits! It is my kind of kit, just enough detail and apparent simple construction! Can't wait to see it completed!

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Sun Jun 18 2017, 07:21

For a rather limited and unknown kit, the molding and level of detail is pretty good Propwash.  Unlike aircraft where mistakes really pop out at you, ships tend to be more forgiving.

I eagerly wait to see what your finished model looks like.   Maybe a few shots with it moving in the water. lol!

Keep us appraised of your progress.

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Sun Jun 18 2017, 23:46

I'm happy to have something different to show you. Very Happy

Here are some shots of what I've done in the past couple of days. My two arch enemies, acrylic paints and white paint, are now in play. I've had a big fight on my hands in using those two. Acrylic paint is something I always struggle with, while white (like yellow) paint is a big pain in the backside to apply. frustrated I now question the wisdom in my choice to paint the model as it should be painted (Victorian Royal Navy colors), rather than the generic red hull and gray topside as suggested by the model. And speaking of wisdom, or my lack of, I should have done a lot on painting BEFORE gluing parts into place. For some reason I thought I had more room than I actually do to move the brush around. Doh! thinking?

The hull is complete and the motor runs nicely. Maybe I can get a pick of it on the high seas for you Allan. Wink



Primer painting the upper deck:



First coats of paint on the upper deck:


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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Mon Jun 19 2017, 06:13

We live and learn Brett, we live and learn. Painting white acrylic is indeed a problem. I water down the acrylic paint to a water like consistency and then I apply multiple, thin overcoats with a sot brush until I get the results I want. Nowadays, I use white spray paint and I paint the parts while they are on the sprue. Loose parts are taped to the workbench and sprayed white. The results are better and the frustration I have to deal with is lessened.

This one is coming out well. Your decking and the sub assemblies are looking good and show detail. You are making slow, but steady progress towards a nice build. Looking forward to seeing the completed model.

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Tue Jun 20 2017, 00:47

Thanks Allan. I've remembered to use your tips from past builds (thinning the white or yellow paints considerably, then applying multiple layers) and have applied them here. Still not an easy job of it though. Wink

I would like your input / suggestion on what I should do about the portholes. They are really just dents in the hull so I am thinking to use a color like intermediate blue to color them in. What do you think? I would use that color for all windows as well (and there aren't that many). Or what do you suggest I do with them?
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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Tue Jun 20 2017, 07:04

For molded in port holes, I use a sharp tipped Sharpie marker to ink the portholes in. Another tool I have is a metal quill art pen and dark blue ink. I dip the quill into the ink and carefully fill in the portholes. I use these methods to fill in the details on my aircraft models' wheels too.

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Thu Jun 22 2017, 00:21

Thanks Allan. I do have a set of such pens on hand (again taking your advice - you should write a column Wink ). I can do that on the smaller portholes that are in the white painted areas. It is the big portholes along the sides, in the black paint, that present a problem. You notice that they are there, but you can't really tell what they are. I've looked at old photos and models of such ships and, unless there is contrasting paint (white or gray for example), you really can't see them all that well anyway. Maybe I should just stick with the ones in the white areas then. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Thu Jun 22 2017, 14:32

Okay,

For the small portholes on the white, use the pen & ink or Sharpie marker like we discussed.

For the black, use the back end of a paint brush, sharpen it to a dull point, and dip it in some silver paint. Now carefully fill in the molded porthole with silver. Let this dry. Now use some acrylic blue paint and water it down about 40 - 50% with water. Use your sharpened brush end and apply a thin wash coat of blue over the silver. That should give you some pretty realistic results.

Let me know if that worked.

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Thu Jun 29 2017, 01:56

Thanks, Allan. I will be sure to give that a try when I get to that point. Very Happy

For a "simple" model, this is taking a tad longer than I expected. Here's a pic of where I ended tonight. I've done the rigging best I can (considering how bad the instructions are - good thing there is Google for help). I think it needs more and may add it as I go. I've also been doing some detail painting using paintings and pics from the period whenever possible. I do know I really HATE painting with white. Mad



Lifeboats and any other details I can think of will be next. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Thu Jun 29 2017, 07:28

I think the entire build looks fantastic! Even the white turned out nicely and we all know what a pain it is to work with. You will definitely have something unusual and out of the ordinary to grace your shelves that's for sure!

Keep up the great work.

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Thu Jun 29 2017, 22:33

The expansion of the forum to allow different forms of modeling is resulting in some tremendous results. This ship is one of those results.
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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Mon Jul 03 2017, 22:58

Thanks for your kind comments about my build, Allan and Rumpler. Smile  I do appreciate it.

Well, This build has taken quite a bit longer than I thought it would. I'm sure if I just made it "out of box" it would not have taken as long. But I found the subject to be really interesting and, after doing some online research, I got much more involved with it. So it went from a bathtub toy to a deluxe bathtub toy. Laughing It is painted in British Royal Navy colors appropriate for the Victorian era. I added a lot more rigging to the model than was originally shown on the (pretty bad) assembly instructions. I also drilled out the lifeboats and lifeboat davits to allow for the boatlines.

I did have a few problems as, while most of the plastic parts were clean and free of flash, many of the parts (lifeboats, davits, deck guns) were misaligned when molded. Lots of filing and fitting needed to be done. The odd ocher color for the masts and smokestack was practically solid in the Humbrol paint can. Although the paint was new, it was almost a solid chunk of paint that needed a lot of thinner to make semi-usable. Also, the color doesn't look as I thought it would (based on paintings and illustrations for ships of the time), but it was what was recommended on various modeling sites. scratch That last thing happened is that I sprayed some satin clear-coat on the upper-deck of the model and I don't think I did it any favors by doing so. It especially had a negative effect on the thread I used for rigging. I had waxed the thread before using it and it looked great prior to clear-coating it. After doing so it seemes like every fuzz that could attach itself to the thread did so. Crying or Very sad

But, aside from these little mishaps, I think it came out okay and was a lot of fun to build. I hope you enjoy the results.









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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Tue Jul 04 2017, 09:07

It came out FANTASTIC! You truly have a rare, unique, one of a kind model in your collection.
*NOTE TO SELF* spray the over coating BEFORE rigging the model! pondering frustrated

Excellent work on an obscure kit - the port holes look very well done and the colors are striking.

One to be very proud of Propwash.

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PostSubject: Re: Kits Remembered 1/250: RN 1880 Iron Warship   Tue Jul 04 2017, 16:02

Great looking ship! Excellent work on this kit. The rigging is outstanding despite the waxing issues. I am really impressed and jealous....lol.

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